a good conversation about not conversing

as we recorded this podcast, we realized we hadn't really been having conversations with each other much over the last few days. tune in to hear us process this new awareness, learn (once again!) how & where we poop, & we also share our thoughts on personality types.

also, i fact checked. caleb was closer--it's vanlyf day 253.

also also: the personality quiz we couldn't think of is called the four tendencies.